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Monday, September 25, 2017 Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Sep 24 2017, 11:30 AM (8,729 Views)
Lovejm


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Sep 26 2017, 02:11 AM
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Sep 25 2017, 04:24 PM
andromeda
Sep 25 2017, 03:32 PM

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Right, absolutely nothing :yawnz:
Even when J&M are on together in a story I'm really tired of Deidre having a disproportionate
amount of screen time. So I can't wait for more of BlackPatch (even if it 6 months away)
My appreciation for the character(s) of Marlena/Hattie is at an all time low.

I'm watching more episode of old shows because I want to see Drake,
I don't really care if Deidre isn't in them. Drake did some pretty good
stuff while Dee was away.
This is hilarious. I enjoy them together more than apart but drake's had more airtime than her consistently since the 90's. Not to mention the show didn't even use her while he was out on his leave. She barely aired in the sanitarium until he got there so all their scenes would be together.

The sanitarium story was the best showcase of their love and connection that they've had in years and it's fine if you're a Drake fan only but for a lot of John and Marlena fans that meant something
Edited by Lovejm, Sep 26 2017, 07:15 AM.
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Lovejm
Sep 26 2017, 07:11 AM
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Sep 26 2017, 02:11 AM
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Sep 25 2017, 04:24 PM

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Even when J&M are on together in a story I'm really tired of Deidre having a disproportionate
amount of screen time. So I can't wait for more of BlackPatch (even if it 6 months away)
My appreciation for the character(s) of Marlena/Hattie is at an all time low.

I'm watching more episode of old shows because I want to see Drake,
I don't really care if Deidre isn't in them. Drake did some pretty good
stuff while Dee was away.
This is hilarious. I enjoy them together more than apart but drake's had more airtime than her consistently since the 90's. Not to mention the show didn't even use her while he was out on his leave. She barely aired in the sanitarium until he got there so all their scenes would be together.

The sanitarium story was the best showcase of their love and connection that they've had in years and it's fine if you're a Drake fan only but for a lot of John and Marlena fans that meant something
I have now official knowledge of this, but I have read in publications and on other soap sights that Deidre is the highest paid actor on Days. She probably get paid a significant amount more than Drake.
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Lovejm


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Sep 26 2017, 07:30 AM
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This is hilarious. I enjoy them together more than apart but drake's had more airtime than her consistently since the 90's. Not to mention the show didn't even use her while he was out on his leave. She barely aired in the sanitarium until he got there so all their scenes would be together.

The sanitarium story was the best showcase of their love and connection that they've had in years and it's fine if you're a Drake fan only but for a lot of John and Marlena fans that meant something
I have now official knowledge of this, but I have read in publications and on other soap sights that Deidre is the highest paid actor on Days. She probably get paid a significant amount more than Drake.
Well that's unconfirmed and even if true, doesn't translate to more airtime. Deidre literally barely got used while drake was gone. Salary has nothing to do with the point above.

Personally I think Kristian could be the highest paid at this point since she clearly has a higher guarantee
Edited by Lovejm, Sep 26 2017, 07:35 AM.
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Lovejm
Sep 26 2017, 07:33 AM
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Sep 26 2017, 07:30 AM
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Sep 26 2017, 07:11 AM

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I have now official knowledge of this, but I have read in publications and on other soap sights that Deidre is the highest paid actor on Days. She probably get paid a significant amount more than Drake.
Well that's unconfirmed and even if true, doesn't translate to more airtime. Deidre literally barely got used while drake was gone. Salary has nothing to do with the point above.

Personally I think Kristian could be the highest paid at this point since she clearly has a higher guarantee
I think Deidre's salary rate is higher, so because of this her guarantees are lower. I don't know how they work her guarantees, but the May do it in longer periods of time. Which might be why we see her in bunches for certain storylines and then very little.
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Lovejm


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Sep 26 2017, 07:43 AM
Lovejm
Sep 26 2017, 07:33 AM
Lifetime943
Sep 26 2017, 07:30 AM

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Well that's unconfirmed and even if true, doesn't translate to more airtime. Deidre literally barely got used while drake was gone. Salary has nothing to do with the point above.

Personally I think Kristian could be the highest paid at this point since she clearly has a higher guarantee
I think Deidre's salary rate is higher, so because of this her guarantees are lower. I don't know how they work her guarantees, but the May do it in longer periods of time. Which might be why we see her in bunches for certain storylines and then very little.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing though. The characters had a week long break after their story wrapped. Nothing about that is out of the ordinary. Plus, ron tends to write like this with gaps.

She disappeared before because Dena had no intention upon using her.
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Sep 26 2017, 07:48 AM
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I think Deidre's salary rate is higher, so because of this her guarantees are lower. I don't know how they work her guarantees, but the May do it in longer periods of time. Which might be why we see her in bunches for certain storylines and then very little.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing though. The characters had a week long break after their story wrapped. Nothing about that is out of the ordinary. Plus, ron tends to write like this with gaps.

She disappeared before because Dena had no intention upon using her.
I don't know how it works, but she is on contract, so she will get paid her guaranteed work days no matter what. I just don't see TPTB being ok with paying her and not having her actually work. That's why I think her guarantees must be low or structured in a really flexible manner.

Who knows...I think we will see more of her in this Will & Sami stuff, at least I hope.
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Lovejm


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Sep 26 2017, 07:54 AM
Lovejm
Sep 26 2017, 07:48 AM
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Sep 26 2017, 07:43 AM

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I don't think we're talking about the same thing though. The characters had a week long break after their story wrapped. Nothing about that is out of the ordinary. Plus, ron tends to write like this with gaps.

She disappeared before because Dena had no intention upon using her.
I don't know how it works, but she is on contract, so she will get paid her guaranteed work days no matter what. I just don't see TPTB being ok with paying her and not having her actually work. That's why I think her guarantees must be low or structured in a really flexible manner.

Who knows...I think we will see more of her in this Will & Sami stuff, at least I hope.
I'm sure we're going to see plenty of both of them in the will Sami story. But all either of them missed was ONE week here. It hasn't been a disappearing act.
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Today's show was terrible to me.

The Sonny/Paul talk was good except Freddie just takes me out of his scenes. CS is very good and I love him as Paul. But there is zero chemistry with Freddie. It's sad to think poor Paul will have his heart shredded when Will shows up. If Sonny was played by someone else I might like this story a lot more.

Featuring Rope just ruins any show for me. They are awful.

Chabby is awful. MM seems so nice but her Abby is so low key that I want to snooze when she's on. BF looks like he is merely coasting through his scenes. Looks like the best part of their wedding will be the visuals.

The Bonnie story feels like to me it is bogged down. Boring. I want to see Justin wooing her and Bonnie squirming or maybe even falling for Dimples.
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Lovejm


Another mixed show for me

Rope ruin everything. The little debate about giving up the job so they wouldn't fight is ridiculous

I really struggled with the chabby scenes too. She did break the law. Just address it for what it was. Justin eventually did but Chad and Abby seemed shocked this could be an issue. I don't feel like ron is proving to have any sort of grasp on Chad and Abby between the fake dimera stuff and scenes like yesterday

Paulson. I thought CS was great. I likes Sonny talked about some real issues he and Will had before Will died. This conversation was long overdue. Will being alive is going to be a gut punch to paul for sure. Freddie was better than he's been so that's something

I love Sheila. I get it's silly but tboz is so enjoyable. I really would like Justin to catch something of a clue soon though. And why hasn't Bonnie seen Sonny or Steve anymore?

Oh forgot Val and Eli. They have good family chemistry and Val had some great reactions yesterday. I do wish Eli was in the running for the commissioner job.
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Lovejm
Sep 26 2017, 08:11 AM
Another mixed show for me

Rope ruin everything. The little debate about giving up the job so they wouldn't fight is ridiculous

I really struggled with the chabby scenes too. She did break the law. Just address it for what it was. Justin eventually did but Chad and Abby seemed shocked this could be an issue. I don't feel like ron is proving to have any sort of grasp on Chad and Abby between the fake dimera stuff and scenes like yesterday

Paulson. I thought CS was great. I likes Sonny talked about some real issues he and Will had before Will died. This conversation was long overdue. Will being alive is going to be a gut punch to paul for sure. Freddie was better than he's been so that's something

I love Sheila. I get it's silly but tboz is so enjoyable. I really would like Justin to catch something of a clue soon though. And why hasn't Bonnie seen Sonny or Steve anymore?

Oh forgot Val and Eli. They have good family chemistry and Val had some great reactions yesterday. I do wish Eli was in the running for the commissioner job.
I want to get on board the Ron C train & be optomistic, but it is kinda difficult.
This show just pointed out how little things have changed as far as storyline focus vs what Dena H was giving us. The three or 4 charcters that were driving storyline in Feb are still driving storyline.. Brady/Nicole/Eric (eric has been writing Nicole letters onscreen for 8 months), Chad & Abby (attempting another wedding), Sonny still boring Sonny, still wanting to be CEO of Titan and Hope & Rafe still exist. As much as I enjoy Shelia, didn't Dena create her and didn't she already use Hattie in a storyline. Now it's the Bonnie & Shelia show.

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Sep 26 2017, 08:37 AM
Lovejm
Sep 26 2017, 08:11 AM
Another mixed show for me

Rope ruin everything. The little debate about giving up the job so they wouldn't fight is ridiculous

I really struggled with the chabby scenes too. She did break the law. Just address it for what it was. Justin eventually did but Chad and Abby seemed shocked this could be an issue. I don't feel like ron is proving to have any sort of grasp on Chad and Abby between the fake dimera stuff and scenes like yesterday

Paulson. I thought CS was great. I likes Sonny talked about some real issues he and Will had before Will died. This conversation was long overdue. Will being alive is going to be a gut punch to paul for sure. Freddie was better than he's been so that's something

I love Sheila. I get it's silly but tboz is so enjoyable. I really would like Justin to catch something of a clue soon though. And why hasn't Bonnie seen Sonny or Steve anymore?

Oh forgot Val and Eli. They have good family chemistry and Val had some great reactions yesterday. I do wish Eli was in the running for the commissioner job.
I want to get on board the Ron C train & be optomistic, but it is kinda difficult.
This show just pointed out how little things have changed as far as storyline focus vs what Dena H was giving us. The three or 4 charcters that were driving storyline in Feb are still driving storyline.. Brady/Nicole/Eric (eric has been writing Nicole letters onscreen for 8 months), Chad & Abby (attempting another wedding), Sonny still boring Sonny, still wanting to be CEO of Titan and Hope & Rafe still exist. As much as I enjoy Shelia, didn't Dena create her and didn't she already use Hattie in a storyline. Now it's the Bonnie & Shelia show.

I'm not fully on board with Ron yet either, but this is just not true. I have a lot of issues with the current cast, and I think it's going to take a pretty major overhaul to really make this show better, but the focus now and the focus 8 months ago is completely different. Rope are not driving story. At all. Chad/Gabi were driving story before, and that's not happening. Chad and Abby aren't driving anything. They're on all the time, but they do nothing. PaulSon are no longer day players. Deimos is gone. The Nicole stuff has completely shifted. Eric wasn't even a part of the Nicole story 8 months ago, and Brady's characterization has changed majorly. Sonny may still want to be CEO, but it's not all he talks about anymore. He's mentioned it once. It's not the Bonnie and Sheila show. They haven't even been on that much...especially Sheila. J&M had an actual story. Lucas has a story. Maggie and Victor have barely breathed the same air. YMMV as to whether or not those are good changes or whether or not those are positive shifts, but they're totally shifts/changes.

But here's the thing. The cast isn't really Ron's thing. That's the EP, and the EPs haven't changed. The stories being written for the cast have changed focus,
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I'm just happy Chad and Abby are together without a third party right now. I'm just so sick of third party hell for them and have earned so syrup as a fan.

I love them and do feel the genuine affection between them. I also love that they are so playful together. :wub2:
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I'm surprised when someone doesn't see much of a difference between Dena and Ron.
There was something really negative, mean-spirited and dreadful about the way Dena wrote the show.
I think the tone is very different now, there's a lot of love, warmth and humor.
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Lovejm
Sep 26 2017, 07:11 AM
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Sep 26 2017, 02:11 AM
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Sep 25 2017, 04:24 PM

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Even when J&M are on together in a story I'm really tired of Deidre having a disproportionate
amount of screen time. So I can't wait for more of BlackPatch (even if it 6 months away)
My appreciation for the character(s) of Marlena/Hattie is at an all time low.

I'm watching more episode of old shows because I want to see Drake,
I don't really care if Deidre isn't in them. Drake did some pretty good
stuff while Dee was away.
This is hilarious. I enjoy them together more than apart but drake's had more airtime than her consistently since the 90's. Not to mention the show didn't even use her while he was out on his leave. She barely aired in the sanitarium until he got there so all their scenes would be together.

The sanitarium story was the best showcase of their love and connection that they've had in years and it's fine if you're a Drake fan only but for a lot of John and Marlena fans that meant something
This quote alone makes your comment less than true.

" Not to mention the show didn't even use her while he was out on his leave."

All you have to do is go to J&M clips to verify the fact. (where the are some great

scene from Drake that were cut by the previous owner)

Deidre has been on plenty.

I just don't like her all that much anymore.

She was truly wonderful for me until even 2002, but after that I don't care


I wouldn't go back and watch to much of Drake after that point either BTW.


BUT I'm not going to let Roman being with a different woman STOP me from

really enjoying all that Drake has given to the show in almost 30 years, because of

some sense of misguided loyalty to John & Marlena's history together.
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seanny
Sep 26 2017, 12:55 AM
As I sat today watching the beautifully-crafted PaulSon scenes all I could feel at first was anger. Why? Because we should have been getting this kind story, dialogue and performances for the couple every since Sonny returned to Salem. Instead we got Paul being pushed aside for all that Deimos/Titan garbage. I always said it takes a real gay person to write realistic LGBT stories and Ron C is proving me right. I may not feel like this in the future but right I'd say that he is the best thing that has happened to DOOL since I started watching back in 2012.

Freddie may had the lion share of the dialogue and today was the best performance we have seen from him in years but Christopher surpassed him in emotion. The tears streaming down Paul's cheek made me want to reach through the TV and hug him. I'm glad that Freddie is fully engaged in his job again. I hope it lasts.

I had a different take on the Sonny tells Paul he was his first love conversation. It sound to me that Sonny was saying that if Will were to miraculously show up alive again, he wouldn't just abandon Paul for Will. Sonny was saying Paul wasn't his second choice because he could no longer have Will, he was his first. It seems like Sonny was balancing the relationships. I think there was a little bit of Sonny telling Paul what he thought was the best thing to say in order to move things forward. Time will tell...

I LOLed when Bonnie just like Adrienne figured out that the only language Shelia understands is hood. :laugh:
I couldnt agree more. Im just thrilled that Paul is front burner where he belongs. I also commend the show and Ron C for the (hopefully) front burner gay love triangle were about to have. To think, so many were upset back in 2015 (rightfully so) that all gay characters and stories were rendered non existent.
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Loved seeing Xander! Him threatening Victor was great! But really, who is going I believe him?
Hope Paul Telfer will be back soon!
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